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The 6139A was Seiko’s (and arguably the world’s) first automatic chronograph, released in March (?) 1969 and featuring quickset day/date, a 30 minute sub-register and a column wheel with vertical clutch. The most iconic of the models featuring this movement is the 6139-600x which came in numerous permutations, the most famous of which has come to be known as the Pogue after William Pogue who wore the watch on board the Skylab mission between 1973 and 74. His watch, featuring the gold-coloured dial, sold at auction in 2008 for a little less than $6000. Mine, a 6139-6005 from November 1973, cost considerably less.
It arrived in decent cosmetic condition but had been described by the seller as non-working. Here is the original photo from the seller:
Looks ok, doesn’t it? I opened up the back to see if anything obvious was amiss with the movement and was greeted with the sight of a wobbly rotor assembly, the cause of which was one loose and one missing screw. So off came the rotor assembly:
and if we look carefully we can see why the watch isn’t running. The missing screw is jammed between the barrel and the movement ring, preventing any power being transmitted from the mainspring to the balance:
So, with the watch equivalent of the Heimlich manoeuvre performed (simply turning barrel to get some power into the mainspring did the trick), the screw was free and the movement sprang into life. With the rotor assembly refitted, I removed the movement and fitted it temporarily to another case while I worked on cleaning up the original case.
Here is a shot of the dial, looking rather nice. Not perfect but it has a rather gorgeous, honeyed look to it that is very appealing.
Here’s the movement, rotor side up, and installed in a spare case:
Those of a nervous disposition may want to look away at this point. Here are a couple of shots of the case with the bezel removed, but exposing lots of lovely grot:
we can see that plenty of elbow grease will be required to lick this into shape. Next we remove the rubber crystal gasket and gasket holding ring. We must remember to install this the right way up when it all goes back together:
Underneath the gasket ring we see the circular spring that sits between the inner rotating ring and the case.
So with everything out, first a good scrubbing with a toothbrush and toothpaste, a good working over with some pegwood sticks to remove the more stubborn regions of dirt and then sanding pads and paper to sort out the worst of the scrapes and dings to the case. Here’s the case post clean with the inner rotating ring and spring refitted:
The next job was to remove and replace the hardened gaskets on the crown and pushers. Here is the crown and stem with the old gasket and some DNA removed from the reverse side of the crown:
In order to fit the new gasket, you need to unscrew the stem and gear for the rotating ring from the crown. With this now completed for the crown and chrono pushers we are on the home straight. With the movement refitted to the now cleaned case we are ready for the new crystal:
Here is a comparison of the old crystal with the new, a reproduction sourced from the US:
Finally everything back together, and only two attempts to get the bezel properly aligned (which incidentally was not the bezel that came with the watch but the one originally fitted to a spare case I had)
Now for a few finishing photos of the watch on its new bracelet:
Interestingly, the watch ran extremely well with the mainspring unstuck, all functions working properly and keeping almost perfect time without any further attention required.
Now to its twin, this one a blue-dialed 6002, completely original, and in pretty decent condition with just a tatty crystal, a few case dings and plenty of grot. A thorough case clean, some refinishing to eliminate the dings and a new Sternkreuz crystal it started to look the part. However, although this one was keeping good time, the chrono reset function was not working properly. A bridge too far for me at the time and so off it went for a repair and service (courtesy of Richard Askham). With the watch in fine fettle back from service, I finished it off with a new reproduction bracelet:
and finally a couple a couple of closing shots showing the two together
realy fantastic!
Thanks!
Hi Martin, nice job, I have a 6193 6002 the first watch I got myself after a stint in Gib with the Royal Navy back in 1977, it got lost in all the moving about I did until a few years ago my sister gave me a box of old papers and stuff I’d left with her,inside was my first watch,the thing is I would love to have it on my arm again, but it needs a service, I live in Norway, and have tried to get it done at seiko but it’s a no go, have you any idea who gan do the service for me, it will need a crown and stem,but the watch runs, Thanks and regards Dave B
Hi David,
Richard Askham was the ‘go to’ person in the UK for Seiko auto chrono servicing until a couple of years ago but he’s now stopped doing them because of a lack of available parts. He is excellent and offers good value for money. There is a chap who posts on tz-uk who is training to become a WOSTEP qualified watchmaker who might be able to help. His name is Luke and his blog is here:
http://raulhorology.com
Best of luck!
All the best
Martin
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Hello Martin,like the above poster a pogue was my first watch I bought it new in 74 when I worked on Bougainville Island.I thought I had lost it after returning to Australia but found it and had it serviced by Seiko service centre here.That was in 89.Lost it again and thought I had accidentally thrown it out ,then forgot about it till my wife went through old luggage stored in roof space a few weeks ago,,but it wasn’t working. The Seiko service centre is long gone but I took it to another shop and the repairer was actually the guy who originally serviced it at Seiko Centre. Sadly it needs new chrono wheel but neither he nor I have been able to source one,so it sits waiting for a miracle.
I wouldn’t despair too much just yet. Occasionally, old stock chronograph wheels do surface in sales on Ebay from regular Seiko parts suppliers so worth keeping your eyes peeled. You could also potentially source a working chrono wheel from a sacrificial movement sourced from a junk watch, but that of course is more of a gamble because its wheel might also be shot. Best of luck though – I hope you manage to revive your watch.
Hi Martin,well miracles do happen.
Well I had left my Pogue with the ex Seiko technician for nearly four months in the hope he could source the parts required, and lo and behold he did.Expensive.. but wonderful to have it back and running.
I’m curious though about if i should leave the chronograph run or leave it in the stop position.The tech says leaving it runs wears it out fairly quickly, but i thought i had read elsewhere that in fact that puts strain on the chrono wheel clutch mechanism.Do you know which is the best option.
One other thing if i may,i noticed that in some pics on this site of a 6139 you revived that it looked like you had re-linished the case work.Can you advise how you did that. Really enjoying your web site,great stuff.
@Kevin Young: Kevin, good to hear patience paid off and that your watch is up and running again. On the question of whether or not to leave it running, I come firmly down in the camp that says ‘running’. When the chronograph is stopped, the chrono wheel (effectively the fourth wheel) is still running, driven by the third wheel and although it turns, it is effectively idle in that it is not driving the seconds hand. It is not driving the seconds hand because the two coupling levers have lifted the clutch ring away from the fourth wheel. In this condition, the fourth wheel rotates freely about the seconds shaft and the clutch spring is being compressed: the watch is in a state of tension, latent kinetic energy tied up in the potential energy of the compressed spring. With the chrono running however, that tension is released, the spring is uncompressed and everything is working in concert.
I cannot think of a single reason why leaving it in a stopped condition would be preferable to letting it run. Hope that helps.
I have actually this chronograph 6139 I am myself a watchmaker but not as good as u, but the crytel glass is so scratchy just wanted to change the glass couldn’t find any parts of it can you tell me where can I buy the glass from plz.
Regards,
Yours Admirer Waqar.
Hi Waqar, crystals for these watches can be found at good watch materials houses such as Cousins in the UK or Jules Borel in the USA. There are also sellers on Ebay who sell suitable crystals. The part number you need is 330W18GN. Sternkreuz make a version of this that but not particularly cheap! Good luck.